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  1. I found that Thomson Reuters also own DT Max (as well as maybe just bought ufile as their email support is separate and different) and this DT Max software has no exclusion (meaning all available, including T1135, TDD, T1013) Check the detail below : http://www.efile.cra.gc.ca/l-sftwr_dtmx-eng.html#UFILEPRO But shockingly H&R Block does not even support T1135 at all: http://www.efile.cra.gc.ca/l-sftwr_hrblck-eng.html Maybe I will go with Intuit, as it has no exclusion (meaning full features and it is well known, branded financial/accounting software product company) for next year...... http://www.efile.cra.gc.ca/l-sftwr_ntt-eng.html
  2. I found from this web-link: http://www.efile.cra.gc.ca/l-sftwrq-eng.html that ONLY these three softwares are not T1135 certified (service available status is n/a) Impôt Professionnel + Les Logiciels Marichênes more details n/a Yes UFILE PRO Thomson Reuters more details n/a Yes TaxPro Toronto Taxtronix System Inc. more details n/a Yes Buyer beware, you get what you paid for...... next time, must check the limitation before buying EFILE "certified" tax preparation software. This ufile seems to be owned by Thomson Reuters DT Tax and Accounting Inc if you look at the prefix of their URL in the browser. So, I wonder why Thomson Reuters, a highly reputable publicly listed financial information service company offer this sort of lousy software?
  3. I would also like to see the implementation of the electronic filing of the T1135 form
  4. UFILE position is against what IPL has suggested earlier. ===start quotes=== The CRA has confirmed to Inter Pipeline that Box 118 should be reported on line 162 of the T1 General form. Inter Pipeline is not able to provide individual tax advice and any specific tax related question regarding your individual return should be directed toward your tax advisor. If you are experiencing on-line filing issues related to the T5013 form, you have the ability to paper file your return or contact the tax software provider to determine possible solutions. Inter Pipeline is not responsible or able to resolve on-line filing issues tied to third party software problems. Inter Pipeline has been advised that certain unitholders have chosen to not report Box 118 in order to electronically file their personal returns. This is an alternative that is not being recommended by Inter Pipeline, and we would caution that you must carefully consider any tax implications that may arise as they will be solely your responsibility. ===end quotes=== This tax year 2013 is the last year I use UFILE. I am VERY disappointed with their attitude and professionalism.
  5. Here is reply from Alice (basically repeating Gabriel weblink content ): --> any comments are welcome -- deadline is getting closer ... Thank you for the links (http://community.ufile.ca/index.php?/topic/5387-t5013-limited-partners-boxes-118-169-170/). UFile has released their latest update and no changes were made for Limited Partners with box 118 in their T5013 slip. For form T5013 please follow the instructions that I have attached in this email. Please understand that Box 118 should not be recorded for Limited Partners. The box 118 in your slip serves as additional information. The UFile team ensured that our T5013 form follows the CRA Certification specifications and that is why we ask you again to not enter box 118 for Limited Partners if you wish to NETFILE your return. I thank you very much for your comprehension. Here is the content of this weblink (http://community.ufile.ca/index.php?/topic/5387-t5013-limited-partners-boxes-118-169-170/) for your convenience: T5013 (13) slip -- Statement of partnership income Limited partners (code 0 in Box 002, Partner code) Notes regarding Boxes 118, 169 & 170 1) Box 118 (Gross business income) Any amount showing in Box 118 for a Limited partner should not be entered. The instruction to report the amount on line 162 is incorrect. Box 118 applies only to a General partner (code 2 in Box 002, Partner code). Moreover, according to the CRA Certification specifications, when Box 118 is present, Box 116 must also be present along with a NAICS Industry code. The confusion arises from the changes made in the new T5013 slip. There used to be a general purpose Box 34 (Partnership's total gross income) that was used for Limited partners. That box has been eliminated. 2) Box 169 (Part IX.1 tax) This is the partner's amount of Part IX.1 tax payable for the taxation year for the partnership. There is no field provided to enter the amount as it is NOT reported on the T1 return. CRA requires the information to be disclosed in the partner's slip. 3) Box 170 (Taxable non portfolio earnings NPF) This is the partner's amount of the taxable income for the taxation year for the partnership. There is no field provided to enter the amount as it is NOT reported on the T1 return. CRA requires the information to be disclosed in the partner's slip.
  6. You need to click help on the top right corner of ufile screen, then click the support request form; and then you shall get this weblink: https://secure.drtax.ca/ufile/2013/help/requestsupport.asp filled in your personal detail in this form I got their personal attention using this route and got intouch with Alice from UFILE helpdesk team. They will be able to spot your specific issue with T5013 form. Mine is as explained by Alice is to ignore (empty out) Box 118 and the NETFILE diagnostic messages disappear and I can file through NETFILE My confusion about UFILE HELP system is that there are UFILE Helpdesk team that claimed they are working on rectifying T5013 form issues -- I bet nt just box 118 but oher boxes too such as box 116 (its long story here). And then there is there is this GABRIEL who seems to be the moderator of this forum that claimed based on the CRA certification processes, we could ignore Box 118. BUT IPL already warned me not to ignore this Box 118, even after GABRIEL made that assertion to ignore Box 118 And lastly, there is IPL who already checked with CRA and insisted we need to report Box 118. I like RNR approach if there is no further clarification, and I quoted here; especially if you are frugal person RNR, on 15 Apr 2014 - 11:25 AM, said: While we all working hard to be correct and accurate in our tax return reporting as demanded by CRA with threats of heavy penalty & charged daily rates and even potentially jail term, CRA has full of problems: T5013, T1135 issues, OpenSSL Heartbleed bugs, 900++ stolen SINs, and even potentially their own internal corruption and fraud issue! - http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/news/cra-corruption/) - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/rcmp-lays-charges-in-alleged-canada-revenue-agency-fraud-scheme/article16793066/ There is famous politician mantra that can be applied to CRA own behaviour lately: DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_as_I_Say_(Not_as_I_Do)
  7. Hi RNR: Thank you for the weblink above. Here is quote from two CRA weblinks, that backup your statement: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/gncy/sttmnt-eng.html "I would like to reiterate that interest and penalties will not be applied to individual taxpayers filing their 2013 tax returns after April 30, 2014 for a period equal to the length of the service interruption. This means individual tax returns for 2013 filed by May 5 will not incur interest or penalties," said the Minister of Revenue, Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/gncy/fq-hb-eng.html 8. If the service interruption prevented me from filing on time, will I be penalized?Recognizing that the service interruption lasted five days, the Minister of National Revenue has announced that interest and penalties will not be applied to individual taxpayers filing their 2013 tax returns after April 30, 2014 for a period equal to the length of this service interruption. This means individual tax returns for 2013 filed by May 5, 2014 will not incur interest or penalties.
  8. Hi Gabriel: I also email the above forum quotes to your Alice with the email address help@ufile.ca to speed up the updating T5013 processes considering that we only have 2 weeks left.... Or, let me get some clarification from you: IS IT TRUE That your weblink (http://community.ufile.ca/index.php?/topic/5387-t5013-limited-partners-boxes-118-169-170/) about THERE IS NO NEED TO ENTER BOX 118 is UFILE official response about "updating the T5013 form in the software..." as claimed by Alice / UFILE HELpdesk at email address help@ufile.ca. In other world your statement based on weblink that you provided is indeed the official update of UFILE formal/official decision in regard of UFILE team effort to update their T5013 form --> meaning UFILE basically do nothing to update their T5013 because after they re-evaluate again the CRA Certification processes and after reading contrary statement from IPL (Mr Roberge) directly about IPL stand regarding Box 118. I need to get this clarification/confirmation so that I have a official/legal basis from UFILE team to report my tax return using UFILE for tax year 2013. As you may be aware, CRA websites provide detail threats and warning to all taxpayers that there are monetary interest rate fines, penalties charged daily and even potential jail term if tax payers falsely, deliberately provide inaccurate tax return.... There are many other IPL shareholders that will be affected if they choose using UFILE as their tax return software for tax year 2013. UFILE has a legal/fiduciary duty as professional tax software provider to honour their written commitment to improve their T5013 form and to clarify with CRA team as IPL has done regarding the status of T5013 form.
  9. Hi RNR: Why May 5? I thought the deadline to submit tax return is Apr 30 2014?
  10. Hi Gabriel: What happen to this ufile support named Alice who claim the following to me by email few weeks ago: Here is the latest reply from ufile team (Alice) regarding ufile support team of updating T5013 form. "...My team notified me that they are currently working on updating the T5013 form in the software. This new update will occur within a week or two. Once the page is updated, please review that form and if you have any questions you can contact me. I thank you again for your patience..." What happen to that work in progress of updating T5013? Is it still work in progress after few weeks later? Are you the person from ufile with the authority to clarify this T5013 issue status? We only have 2 weeks left ..... and here I quoted IPL official response to your assertion about CRA CERTIFICATION processes about box 118: ===start quotes=== The CRA has confirmed to Inter Pipeline that Box 118 should be reported on line 162 of the T1 General form. Inter Pipeline is not able to provide individual tax advice and any specific tax related question regarding your individual return should be directed toward your tax advisor. If you are experiencing on-line filing issues related to the T5013 form, you have the ability to paper file your return or contact the tax software provider to determine possible solutions. Inter Pipeline is not responsible or able to resolve on-line filing issues tied to third party software problems. Inter Pipeline has been advised that certain unitholders have chosen to not report Box 118 in order to electronically file their personal returns. This is an alternative that is not being recommended by Inter Pipeline, and we would caution that you must carefully consider any tax implications that may arise as they will be solely your responsibility. ===end quotes===
  11. Here is turbo tax discussion on box 118 issue: https://profile-en.community.turbotaxonline.ca/questions/889118-t5013-box-118-where-does-an-amount-in-this-box-get-put-on-profile-box-118-does-not-exist-on-the-profile-t5013 They confused like UFILE too: Box 118 refers to Gross Business Income: For the past few years, the T5013 slip has had several boxes for "gross income" from different sources. Instead of having several input boxes for gross income, ProFile has only one (see "Partnership's total gross income", immediately below Box 108 on our T5013 worksheet). Where this value is shipped depends on the "Source of net income (loss)" that you entered. If you entered the source as Box 116 - Business Income, then the gross income entered would get shipped to line 162 on the Jacket. Was this helpful? Yes 1 No 0 Comments (1) dsirtonski User 1 day ago Reply I've received several T5013s from clients this year and there is box 104 (limited partners business income) and box 118. However, when I enter an amount in "Partnership's total gross income" the value is not being "shipped" to line 162. I figure I'll have to manually input it. Elaine Employee 18 hours ago T5013 Box 104 (limited partners business income) gets transferred to T1_Line 122. Since there is no Gross income field associated with Line 122 then the "Partnership's total gross income" will not flow to the T1 Jacket. Please do not manually input it on Line 162 as line 162/135 refers to a different source of income than Line 122. Was this helpful? Yes 0 No 0 Comments (2) dsirtonski User 17 hours ago Reply If that is correct, then should there not be an amount for box 118 on the T5013 if there is an amount for box 104? In the instructions is specifies box 118 should be entered on line 162. Elaine Employee 16 hours ago Reply dsirtonski: I can see why this is confusing for users. With the changes that CRA made to the T5013 box numbers for 2013 there has been much confusion for both the issuers and the recipients.Regardless whether box 118 gets posted as gross income to the T1 jacket at line 122 or not , this will not affect the out come of the return. I attach a link to the T5013- Instruction for Recipients. If you look at the table Box 118 is in the regular (non limited partner) section while box 104 is in the Limited partner section. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t5013-inst/t5013-inst-fill-13e.pdf You can also refer to page 90 of the T4068 guide that issuers follow in creating their T5013 slips.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4068/t4068-13e.pdf
  12. Hi all UFILE members: Here is direct quote from Mr. Jeremy Roberge (Vice President, Capital Markets Inter Pipeline Ltd.) about the weblink provided by Gabriel: http://community.ufile.ca/index.php?/topic/5387-t5013-limited-partners-boxes-118-169-170/ ===start quotes=== The CRA has confirmed to Inter Pipeline that Box 118 should be reported on line 162 of the T1 General form. Inter Pipeline is not able to provide individual tax advice and any specific tax related question regarding your individual return should be directed toward your tax advisor. If you are experiencing on-line filing issues related to the T5013 form, you have the ability to paper file your return or contact the tax software provider to determine possible solutions. Inter Pipeline is not responsible or able to resolve on-line filing issues tied to third party software problems. Inter Pipeline has been advised that certain unitholders have chosen to not report Box 118 in order to electronically file their personal returns. This is an alternative that is not being recommended by Inter Pipeline, and we would caution that you must carefully consider any tax implications that may arise as they will be solely your responsibility. ===end quotes=== Well, what do you think folks? This is strange situation where UFILE has their own interpretation/opinion on tax issues different than IPL and CRA opinions.
  13. Hi Trac2, RNR, UFILE team: Do you think UFILE will update T5013? Is it updated already with all the correction on T5013? Shall we wait until lets say 4th week of April 2014 before we submit our tax return?
  14. RNR, wtriker and Trac2: Thank for your valuable info about Box 116+ Wow, this is new to me and have no idea what to do about it. I wonder why there is no response or comments from UFILE team. Are they sleeping? What is the creative solution for these issues UFILE team? Put dummy zeroes into empty fields again like TY2012? I think we just added up 3 Boxes 135 and put the total into box 135 of UFILE, as suggested by trac2, if I am not mistaken. But what shall we select eh? Shall we pick UFILE's Box 135 Foreign Dividend or UFILE's Box 135 Foreign Interest? I just select Foreign Interest, and I think it does not matter for the foreign income -- all foreign interest and dividend is treated as foreign interest, no special treatment like the Canadian/domestic corporation "eligible dividend" Also, shall we leave this box blank as there is no info provided by IPL? Tax shelter identification number (TSNNNNNN) I just ignore the above box. What do you all think? Have a great week ahead folks; thanks again for the useful comments, info, critics,etc.
  15. This T5013 area in the larger picture is Jim Flaherty way of killing the whole business of Income Trust business model. Just before that infamous "Halloween Massacre Day" when Jim Flaherty announced that Income Trust is Finished, Telus and Bell and thousand other corporations also wanted to be converted into Income Trust. IPL decided to delay that Judgement Day until 2013. And since 2008, I have to have annual suffering to correctly enter T5013A. I remember I need to keep looking at the exchange rate for each foreign income for different foreign country. I drive me nuts. Also, They have pull down menu items for some boxes and if I only enter the dollars value and forget to select the pull down menu, the diagnostic messages will insist I could not send via NETFILE and/or need to correct the mistakes but was not told was my mistakes were, until I crack up my brain and looking at the google search results and search redflagdeals.com forum to spot "the creative solutions".
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